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Username Post: ACT German Translations        (Topic#76673)
Jim Mahoney 
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11-26-08 05:15 PM - Post#87352    

Hello All,

There are many non-English information available on the Internet, If only we could read them - Will with a little work we can!

Google offers an online test translator:

Since I am waiting for my S3D ACT conversion for my Multiplex I am trying out various translators.

For Example:

Here is the translation of an ACT document on Signal Diversity :


Examp
le Translation:



Diversity

Diversity pages


Wie immer wenn neue technische Standards wie Diversity gesetzt werden, gibt es schnell Nachahmer. As always when new technical standards set as diversity, there are imitators quickly.

Das ist normal und auch OK und zeigt vor allem, dass da mehr dran ist als pures Marketing. This is normal and OK and shows above all that there is more truth than pure marketing.

Nur gute Produkte und funktionierende Technik werden kopiert. Only good products and effective technique are copied.

Diversity-Empfang wird im Funkbereich überall da eingesetzt, wo es auf hohe Übertragungssicherheit ankommt. Diversity reception is in the field of radio everywhere, where it is at high transfer security matters.

Deshalb müssen auch bei Begriffen wie “Diversity” gewisse Standards eingehalten werden, auch wenn es verlockend sein mag, auf fahrende Züge aufzuspringen (früher nannte man das Trittbrettfahrer).
Must therefore also in terms such as "diversity" certain standards be met, even if it might be tempting, on trains traveling aufzuspringen (formerly known the riders).

So wird im Moment der Begriff “Diversity” doch sehr stark verwässert (die Erfinder bei Senheiser würden sich im Grab umdrehen), und das führt ausgerechnet beim Thema Sicherheit zu Verunsicherungen bei Kunden. Sun is currently the term "diversity" but heavily diluted (the inventor of Senheiser would turn in the grave), and this leads to the chosen theme of security to uncertainty for customers.

Wir wollen deshalb hier die Begriffe zum Thema Diversity mehr präzisieren. We therefore want to here the concepts of diversity on more precise.



Diversity Diversity

Diversity-Technik ist klar definiert und auch der Begriff als solcher geschützt. Diversity technology is clearly defined and also the concept as such protected.

Diversity-Empfang und der daraus resultierende Sicherheits-Vorteil liegt nur vor, wenn 2 komplette Empfänger ständig in Empfangs-Betrieb sind und miteinander komunizieren. Diversity reception and the resulting security advantage is only when 2 complete receiver constantly in receive mode and communicate with each other.

Nur dann ergibt sich durch zwei Empfänger ein Empfangs- und Sicherheitsvorteil. Only then follows by two recipients of reception and security advantage.


Voll-Duplex-Diversity Full-duplex Diversity

Diese Betriebsart arbeitet mit zwei kompletten Empfängerstufen, die Diversity-Auswertung findet erst nach der kompletten Verarbeitung und Filterung des Empfangs-Signals statt. This mode works with two complete receiver stages, the diversity analysis found only after the complete processing and filtering of the reception signal instead.

Beide Empfänger sind über eine Datenleitung verbunden. Both receivers are on a data line. Es findet keine Umschaltung zwischen den Empfängern statt, sondern eine ständige, fliesende Bewertung der Signale beider Empfänger mit unterschiedlichen Anteilen beider Empfängersignale im Gesamtsystem. There is no switching between the recipients, but rather a continuous, flowing evaluation of the signals of both recipients with varying proportions of both receiver signals in the overall system.

Nur damit erreicht man erhebliche höhere Rauschabstände (Verhältnis von Störsignal zu Nutzsignal), mehr Sicherheitsreserven und Unterdrückung bordinterner- und externer Störungen. Only thus can be reached significant higher frequency noise (ratio of interfering with useful), more reserves and security bord suppression of internal and external disturbances.



Antennen-Diversity Antenna Diversity

Hier werden 2 Antennen benutzt, intern wird lediglich mit dem Antennensignal zweier Empfangsteile gearbeitet und diese immer auf das bessere Signal umgeschaltet. Here are 2 antennas used internally only with the antenna signal reception of two parts and they always worked on improving the signal switches.

Eine komplette Signalverarbeitung und Filterung zweier Empfangs-Signale findet nicht statt. A complete filtering and signal reception of two signals will not take place.

Das ist besser als nur ein Antenne, ein Rauchabstands-Gewinn findet aber nicht statt und die Umschaltung ergibt Synchronzeitprobleme. That is more than just an antenna, a smoke-profit distance but will not take place and the switching time is synchronous problems.

Außerdem können solche Systeme nicht im 2-Frequenzbetrieb arbeiten (su). In addition, such systems are not in the 2-frequency mode (see below).



Zwei Empfänger im Modell Two receivers in the model


Der Betrieb von zwei unabhängig arbeitenden Empfängern im Modell bietet keine Empfangsvorteile und hat nichts mit Diversity-Technik bzw. Diversity-Empfang zu tun. The operation of two independent receivers working in the model offers no advantages reception and has nothing to do with diversity and technology diversity reception to be done.

Lediglich in der Verteilung der Servos auf zwei Empfänger könnte theoretisch ein Sicherheitsgewinn möglich sein. Only in the distribution of servos to two recipients could theoretically gain a security possible.



Akkuweichen mit zwei Empfängern Turnout battery with two receivers

Es empfängt immer nur ein Empfänger, auch wenn zwei Frequenzen gesendet und zwei Empfänger an der Akkuweiche angesteckt sind. It receives more than one beneficiary, even though two frequencies and two receivers on the battery backer are infected.

Es ist immer nur eine Empfangsantenne und ein Empfänger in Betrieb. It is always only one receiving antenna and a receiver in operation.

Diese Einrichtung ist lediglich eine einfache Frequenz-Umschaltung und schützt nicht vor den Problemen, die mit Diversity beseitigt werden. This facility is just a simple switching frequency and does not protect against the problems associated with diversity eliminated.

Bei ACT ist Frequenz-Umschaltung schon mit nur einem DDS-Empfänger möglich. When ACT is already switching frequency with only one DDS possible recipients.




2-Frequenzbetrieb 2-frequency operation

Das hat (zunächst) nichts mit Diversity zu tun, die Gemeinsamkeit besteht lediglich in der Verwendung von 2 Empfängern im Modell. That was (initially) nothing to do with diversity, the commonality exists only in the use of 2 receivers in the model.

Es wird ein Sender benötigt, der zwei Frequenzen abstrahlt. It is a station required two-rotor.

Im Modell werden zwei Empfänger eingesetzt, die über Akkuweichen verbunden sind. Bei ACT genügt dazu ein einziger DDS-Empfänger. The model considers two receivers used on the battery switches are connected. When ACT enough to a single DDS receiver.


Bei Betrieb von zwei Empfängern an einer Akkuweiche (Emcotec oder Powerbox) wird dann auf einer der beiden Frequenzen empfangen mit einem Empfänger, es ist immer nur eine Empfangsantenne in Betrieb. For operation of two receivers on a battery switch (or EMCOTEC Powerbox) will be on one of the two frequencies received by a recipient, it is always only one receiving antenna in operation.

Wird diese Frequenz gestört, erkennt das die Akkuweiche am Fail Safe Signal des Empfängers, dazu muß ein Kanal als Fail Safe Ausgang geschaltet sein, kann also nicht verwendet werden und fehlt somit für andere Anwendungen. This frequency is disturbed, recognizes the switch on the battery fail-safe signal from the receiver, it must be a channel as a fail-safe output that can not be used and thus lacking for other applications.

Servo-Einstellungen sind nicht möglich.Die Akkuweiche schaltet dann bei Störung dieser Frequenz auf den anderen Empfänger um, der mit der zweiten vom Sender abgestrahlten Frequenz arbeitet. Servo settings are not möglich. Die battery backer then at fault on this spectrum to the other recipients, with the second frequency emitted from the transmitter works.


Die Umschaltung erfolgt mit der Fail Safe Verzögerung der (PCM) Empfänger, es findet kein Diversity-Betrieb statt.
The switching is done with the fail-safe delay of the (PCM) receiver, there is no diversity-operation instead.

Die Einrichtung schützt vor Gleichkanal-Störungen (su), hat aber mit Diversity-Betrieb nichts zu tun. The body protects against the same channel interference (see below), but with a diversity-operation nothing to do.

Technisch richtig ist die Bezeichnung “Einfache Frequenzumschaltung”. Technically correct, the name "Simple frequency switching."

Warum das dann von Emcotec als “Diversity” bezeichnet wird, kann eigentlich nur mit absoluter Unkenntnis der tatsächlichen Vorgänge zu tun haben, alles Andere wäre ja bewußte Irreführung.....? Why then EMCOTEC as "diversity" is really only can with absolute ignorance of the actual operations have to do everything else would deliberate deception .....?

Vielleicht ist es aber auch nur reine Nervosität..... Vergleiche hier Perhaps it is just pure nervousness ..... comparisons here


Einfache Frequenz-Umschaltung ist mit einem ACT-DDS-Empfänger ohne jegliche Zusatzeinrichtung möglich, die Empfänger können zwei Frequenzen empfangen. Simple frequency-switching is a DDS-ACT-receiver without any additional device, which recipients can receive two frequencies.

Dabei wird nicht nur prozessorschnell, also ohne jegliche Verzögerung, von einer Frequenz zur anderen umgeschaltet, es sind auch erheblich weniger Bauteile im Eingriff. It is not only fast processor, ie without any delay, from one frequency to another switch, there are also significantly fewer components in the surgery.


2-Frequenzbetrieb mit Diversity-Empfangssicherh eit 2-frequency operation with diversity reception Security


Dies ist der Fall, wenn ein Sender, der zwei Frequenzen abstrahlt und ein Voll-Diversity-Empangs-Sy stem im Modell benuzt wird. This is the case when a channel, the two-rotor and a full diversity Empangs system will also use the model.



Bei Betrieb von zwei Empfängern im Voll-Diversity-Betrieb werden diese auf die beiden Sender-Frequenzen eingestellt, die beiden Empfänger sind verbunden über eine Datenleitung, beide sind ständig in Betrieb, empfangen beide Frequenzen gleichzeitig und komunizieren miteinander. For operation of two recipients in full-diversity will be operating on the two-channel frequencies set, the two receivers are connected via a data line, both are constantly in operation, receiving both frequencies simultaneously and communicate with each other.

So ergibt sich der Voll-Diversity-Empfangsvo rteil auf 2 Frequenzen. Thus the full advantage of diversity reception at 2 frequencies.


Damit erreicht man erhebliche höhere Rauschabstände (Verhältnis von Störsignal zu Nutzsignal) mit ergeblicher Erweiterung der Sicherhheits-Reserven und Unterdrückung bordinterner- und externer Störungen, bei gleichzeitigem Schutz vor Gleichkanalstörungen. In order to reach significant higher frequency noise (ratio of interfering with useful) devoted to expansion of the reserves and Safety-board internal oppression and external interference, while protecting against the same channel interference.

Es ist die geringst mögliche Anzahl an Bauteilen im Einsatz. ACT-Angebot hier. It is the lowest possible number of components in use. ACT offer here.


Zusammenfassung Abstract

Die häufigsten Empfangsprobleme ergeben sich bei großen und komplexen Modellen nicht in weiter Entfernung oder durch Gleichkanalstörungen, sondern im normalen Flugbereich durch Richtwirkungen und Empfangsschwund. The most common reception problems arise in large and complex models are not far away, or through direct channel interference, but in normal flight area by directional effects and reception shrinkage.

Piloten von Großmodellen oder Jets können ein Lied von abgestürzten Modellen ohne Gleichkanal-Störung, aber mit Fail Safe singen, und das im Nahbereich und bei Modellen, die davor lange Zeit ohne Probleme betrieben wurden. Pilots of large jets or models can use a song from crashed DC models without channel interference, but with Fail Safe sing, and at close range and models, the long time it operated without problems.

Diese Probleme ergeben sich durch Funkumweltveränderungen und komplexen Aufbau mit Richtwirkungs-Effekten solcher Modelle. Davor schützt nur Diversity-Empfang . These problems arise from radio environmental changes and complex structure with directional effect effects of such models. Davor only protects diversity reception.

Mögliche Störeinflüsse werden in einen Bereich verschoben, in dem man aus Sichtgründen kein Modell mehr fliegen kann. Possible disturbance will move into an area in which you can view more reasons no model can fly.



2-Frequenz-Umschaltung schützt ausschließlich vor Gleichkanalstörungen, welche durchaus vorkommen können, die aber sicher weniger häufig die tatsächliche Ursache von Abstürzen sind. 2-frequency switching exclusively protects against the same channel interference, what can happen, but certainly less often the real cause of crashes are.

Eine Doppelbelegung des Kanals ist meist ein länger andauerndes Ereignis und führt daher (bei Benutzung von nur einer Frequenz) zur unweigerlichen Zerstörung des Modells. A double occupancy of the canal is usually a prolonged event, and therefore (for the use of only one frequency) to the inevitable destruction of the model.

Daher rührt offensichtlich die große Angst vor Gleichkanal-Störungen. Hence the obvious big fear Immediately channel interference.

2-Kanal-Betrieb beseitigt jedoch nicht die viel häufigere Ursache für Probleme, die mit Diversity-Empfang beseitigt werden. 2-channel operation does not eliminate the much more frequent cause of problems with diversity reception eliminated.


Deshalb ist 2-Frequenzbetrieb nur in Verbindung mit Diversity-Empfang wirklich sicherer. Alle Lösungen ohne Diversity mit nur einen Empfänger im Betrieb schützen nur vor relativ selten auftretetenden Kanal-Doppelbelegungen, nicht aber vor den großen und immer häufiger auftretenden Problemen durch Richtwirkungen im normalen Flugbereich. That is why 2-frequency operation only in conjunction with diversity reception really safer. All solutions without diversity with only one receiver in the operation to protect only relatively rare double auftretetenden channel assignments, but not before the large and increasingly frequent problems through directional effects in normal flight area .


Grundsätzlich gilt, Diversity ist eine Sicherheitstechnik, deshalb sollte nur da, wo Diversity-Sicherheit drin ist, auch Diversity draufstehen. Fundamentally, diversity is a security technology, therefore should only be where diversity is security there, it is also diversity.

Sicherheits-Einrichtungen auf der Modellseite Safety equipment on the model side

Viele Anbieter sog. Sicherheits-Systeme arbeiten grundsätzlich mit dem Einbau erheblicher Mengen an zusätzlichen elektronischen und mechanischen Bauteilen. Many providers so-called security systems work basically with the installation of significant amounts of additional electronic and mechanical components.

Das soll sicherer sein. That should be safe. Zugegeben, wer andere als ACT-Empfänger benutzt, der kommt um die Verwandung solcher Zusatzeinrichtungen nicht herum. Admittedly, who other than ACT-used receiver who comes to such related ancillary equipment is not around.

Wir bei ACT arbeiten nach dem Prinzip: We at ACT work on the principle:

- Was nicht eingebaut ist kann nicht ausfallen - - What is not implemented can not fail --




The following is my insert:

KISS --- Keep it simple Stupid OR Keep it as simple as possible but complex enough to do the job!!!





Wir werden deshalb keine unsinnige Anhäufung an unnötigen Bauteilen anbieten, sondern immer nach der Lösung mit dem minimalsten Aufwand suchen. We will therefore not unreasonable accumulation of unnecessary components offer, but always after the solution with minimal effort looking for.

Das halten wir für sicherer. That strikes us as more secure.


As you can see the translation still needs some work But now we have a good starting point to work with.


Happyh Flying,
Cherokee Jim Mahoney
Airtronics Radios, Helos - Anderson Servos, Novarossi Engines, Blitz AVRO 90 - Phoenix Simulator - SFour Helicopters - Helos Aviation Technologies


Edited by Jim Mahoney on 11-26-08 05:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Jim Mahoney 
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Re: ACT German Translations
11-26-08 05:46 PM - Post#87353    
    In response to Jim Mahoney

Now we drop out the German text for a more readable English Version:



Diversity

As always when new technical standards set as diversity, there are imitators quickly. This is normal and OK and shows above all that there is more truth than pure marketing. Only good products and effective technique are copied.

Diversity reception is in the field of radio everywhere, where it is at high transfer security matters. Must therefore also in terms such as "diversity" certain standards be met, even if it might be tempting, on trains traveling aufzuspringen (formerly known the riders). Sun is currently the term "diversity" but heavily diluted (the inventor of Senheiser would turn in the grave), and this leads to the chosen theme of security to uncertainty for customers. We therefore want to here the concepts of diversity on more precise.



Diversity

Diversity technology is clearly defined and also the concept as such protected. Diversity reception and the resulting security advantage is only when 2 complete receiver constantly in receive mode and communicate with each other.
Only then follows by two recipients of reception and security advantage.


Full-duplex Diversity

This mode works with two complete receiver stages, the diversity analysis found only after the complete processing and filtering of the reception signal instead. There is no switching between the recipients, but rather a continuous, flowing evaluation of the signals of both recipients with varying proportions of both receiver signals in the overall system.

Only thus can be reached significant higher frequency noise (ratio of interfering with useful), more reserves and security bord suppression of internal and external disturbances.



Antenna Diversity

Here are 2 antennas used internally only with the antenna signal reception of two parts and they always worked on improving the signal switches. A complete filtering and signal reception of two signals will not take place. That is more than just an antenna, a smoke-profit distance but will not take place and the switching time is synchronous problems. In addition, such systems are not in the 2-frequency mode (see below).



Two receivers in the model

The operation of two independent receivers working in the model offers no advantages reception and has nothing to do with diversity and technology diversity reception to be done. Only in the distribution of servos to two recipients could theoretically gain a security possible.



Turnout battery with two receivers

It receives more than one beneficiary, even though two frequencies and two receivers on the battery backer are infected. It is always only one receiving antenna and a receiver in operation. This facility is just a simple switching frequency and does not protect against the problems associated with diversity eliminated. When ACT is already switching frequency with only one DDS possible recipients.




2-frequency operation

That was (initially) nothing to do with diversity, the commonality exists only in the use of 2 receivers in the model.


It is a station required two-rotor.

The model considers two receivers used on the battery switches are connected. When ACT enough to a single DDS receiver. For operation of two receivers on a battery switch (or EMCOTEC Powerbox) will be on one of the two frequencies received by a recipient, it is always only one receiving antenna in operation. This frequency is disturbed, recognizes the switch on the battery fail-safe signal from the receiver, it must be a channel as a fail-safe output that can not be used and thus lacking for other applications. Die battery backer then at fault on this spectrum to the other recipients, with the second frequency emitted from the transmitter works.
The switching is done with the fail-safe delay of the (PCM) receiver, there is no diversity-operation instead. The body protects against the same channel interference (see below), but with a diversity-operation nothing to do.

Technically correct, the name "Simple frequency switching."

Why then EMCOTEC as "diversity" is really only can with absolute ignorance of the actual operations have to do everything else would deliberate deception .....? Perhaps it is just pure nervousness ..... comparisons here Simple frequency-switching is a DDS-ACT-receiver without any additional device, which recipients can receive two frequencies. It is not only fast processor, ie without any delay, from one frequency to another switch, there are also significantly fewer components in the surgery.


2-frequency operation with diversity reception Security


This is the case when a channel, the two-rotor and a full diversity Empangs system will also use the model. For operation of two recipients in full-diversity will be operating on the two-channel frequencies set, the two receivers are connected via a data line, both are constantly in operation, receiving both frequencies simultaneously and communicate with each other. Thus the full advantage of diversity reception at 2 frequencies.


In order to reach significant higher frequency noise (ratio of interfering with useful) devoted to expansion of the reserves and Safety-board internal oppression and external interference, while protecting against the same channel interference. It is the lowest possible number of components in use. ACT offer here.


Abstract

The most common reception problems arise in large and complex models are not far away, or through direct channel interference, but in normal flight area by directional effects and reception shrinkage.

Pilots of large jets or models can use a song from crashed DC models without channel interference, but with Fail Safe sing, and at close range and models, the long time it operated without problems.

These problems arise from radio environmental changes and complex structure with directional effect effects of such models. Davor only protects diversity reception. Possible disturbance will move into an area in which you can view more reasons no model can fly.

2-frequency switching exclusively protects against the same channel interference, what can happen, but certainly less often the real cause of crashes are. A double occupancy of the canal is usually a prolonged event, and therefore (for the use of only one frequency) to the inevitable destruction of the model. Hence the obvious big fear Immediately channel interference. 2-channel operation does not eliminate the much more frequent cause of problems with diversity reception eliminated.

That is why 2-frequency operation only in conjunction with diversity reception really safer. All solutions without diversity with only one receiver in the operation to protect only relatively rare double auftretetenden channel assignments, but not before the large and increasingly frequent problems through directional effects in normal flight area .

Fundamentally, diversity is a security technology, therefore should only be where diversity is security there, it is also diversity.


Safety equipment on the model side

Many providers so-called security systems work basically with the installation of significant amounts of additional electronic and mechanical components.

Admittedly, who other than ACT-used receiver who comes to such related ancillary equipment is not around.

We at ACT work on the principle:

- What is not implemented can not fail --




The following is my insert:

KISS --- Keep it Simple Stupid OR Keep it as simple as possible but complex enough to do the job!!!





We will therefore not unreasonable accumulation of unnecessary components offer, but always after the solution with minimal effort looking for.

That strikes us as more secure.




As you can see the translation still needs some work But now we have a good starting point to work with to smooth out the translation.


Happy Flying,
Cherokee Jim Mahoney




Airtronics Radios, Helos - Anderson Servos, Novarossi Engines, Blitz AVRO 90 - Phoenix Simulator - SFour Helicopters - Helos Aviation Technologies


Edited by Jim Mahoney on 11-27-08 04:29 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mike Mas 
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11-27-08 03:31 AM - Post#87354    
    In response to Jim Mahoney

Pretty heavy duty stuff there JIm!
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Jim Mahoney 
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11-30-13 05:58 AM - Post#88145    
    In response to Mike Mas

Hello Mike,

During the last few years Google Translate has improved quite a bit. But the best help in translation is Knowing the subject you are translate. Fun!

The translations I did above were straight Translations using Google Translate.

Cherokee Jim
Airtronics Radios, Helos - Anderson Servos, Novarossi Engines, Blitz AVRO 90 - Phoenix Simulator - SFour Helicopters - Helos Aviation Technologies


 
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09-02-14 02:02 AM - Post#89606    
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