Staff
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 04-22-02 01:35 AM - Post#7097
Place your "Simulator Tips" on this thread!
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jkelly
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04-22-02 02:47 PM - Post#7137
In response to Staff
Buy one!!! It works, it may pay for itself fairly quickly.
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Heli_Driver
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Loc: Arlington, TX USA
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04-22-02 05:02 PM - Post#7151
In response to Staff
If you're having trouble in Real Flight judging the ground distance when decending you can go to View and select "Look at Ground."
This will keep the ground in view always so it never "sneaks" up on you. Good for practiciing autos but I don't normally use this view as things "helis" get very small in a hurry as they climb!
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volare
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Loc: Cincinnati
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04-22-02 08:01 PM - Post#7162
In response to Staff
If you don't feel like dropping $200-300 for a sim there are two free ones on the internet that I know of. One is called FMS and is available at:
http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html
The other is called PRE-Flight and can be downloaded at:
http://www.geocities.com/preflight3d/
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butch r
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04-23-02 12:04 AM - Post#7176
In response to volare
The choice of simulators is not of importance. Learn on what ever your budget allows. The important aspect is that you learn eye hand cordination so when you are actually flying your heli, your initial control response is the correct one. People learning to hover have time to make 2 control inputs, The first one is wrong so they make a panic attempt to regain control only to loose it all. Sort of like the snowball effect. It only gets bigger and worse. The goal here is to make control inputs automaticly and correctly the first time. Afterwards, simple stablilitizing inputs are needed which are easy because you already reinforced your abilities to make the proper inputs. Hand eye cordination through the simulator of your choice is the best medicine.
Butch R
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VHill
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04-23-02 12:15 AM - Post#7179
In response to Staff
I find many,including myself,sraying away from the basics when on the sim...while a crash on the sim will only cost you the effort of pushing the spacebar,crashing the real thing will cost hard earned money...im assuming,of course,that you all bought the sim to learn to fly and save money during the learning phase....treat the heli on the sim as if it were your pride and joy...i have some training excersises that i use that have helped me dramatically....anyone interested should email me at Anotherdamnedsn@aol.com.....i would be more than happy to go over some of them with you
Vance Hill
Jacksonville,FL
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KrAzYfLyEr
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05-24-02 03:20 AM - Post#8162
In response to VHill
just an update on the screen name and email address for VHill...new email is CrAzYfLyEr424@aol.com
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volare
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06-03-02 06:16 PM - Post#8409
In response to Staff
Many people say you will save yourself lots of money if you buy a simulator. This is not necessarily true if you are patient. A simulator may make your learning curve quicker but it can also give you false confidence and cause you to crash if you are not patient. I have learned without a simulator for about 10 months now and so far it would not nearly have paid for itself in crash costs. Although the extra ease of learning may be worth it, I'm just letting you know buying a sim is not absolutely necessary.
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chas1025
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06-29-02 03:29 AM - Post#8916
In response to Staff
Take a serious approach to using the simulator. After getting the simulator and using it on a regular basis I was able to hover on the first day and progressed to solid foward flight within a week....The simulator is very much your best friend with helis..
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KrAzYfLyEr
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07-02-02 09:51 PM - Post#8956
In response to chas1025
Very rarely will you ever experience perfect conditions at your local flying field like you do on the sim...one way ive found helpfull to make the conditions not quite so perfect is to change the weather settings...a simple adjustment of the winds usually does the trick...2mph gusting to 4mph with variable wind direction works rather well....seems to give a more realistic feel to the sim
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Tree_Top_Chop
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Loc: California
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08-16-02 07:35 PM - Post#9646
In response to Staff
Get someone to randomly move around the trim tabs on your controller - then take off and get it under control to a hover. Great way to develop reflexes and build confidence for those first few take-offs with the real thing.
Another tip - when installing the similuator, it may require you to upgrade your version of DirectX (usually included on the CD, if not go to www.microsoft.com/directx/). If you have to upgrade your DirectX, then you will likely need to upgrade your video card drivers as well. Check the website of the manufacturer of your video card for new drivers that work with the new version of DirectX.
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robdoyle
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09-14-02 07:07 AM - Post#10118
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Ever record your flights in Realflight? Recording is not only useful for bragging rights, but is also a very useful tool when learning to do manuevers.
Paired up with the view of the transmitter (G2) on your screen when you play a recording back, you should now be able to critique yourself and catch any mistakes you made on playback, that you may have never thought about when actually attempting the manuever.
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Tree_Top_Chop
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10-22-02 05:52 PM - Post#10783
In response to Staff
There is little doubt a simulator makes a great training tool. Irregardless of the simulator you choose, there are some techniques that can help you get the most from your time spent flying pixels.
First, get in the mindset that you are about to train. This gets your mind ready to learn. It's like the difference between reading a book for enjoyment and studying a book. You can still have fun, but dedicate some time to serious training.
Second is time. Hammering the computer for four hours straight will accomplish little overall in comparison to the first hour. Training fine motor skills is accomplished by practice over time. Four one hour sessions in a week is far better than one four hour session. Your brain will will not absorb everything from a single session. It needs time to make those new neural connections.
Third is a toy helicopter. Even with the nice 3D images produced on a computer monitor, it really helps to have a model to move in the air by hand. Anything cheap will do. What you are looking for is something to practice moves with to develop a mental picture. The mental picture gives your brain a point of reference for feedback. Try it, you'll be surprised.
Besides those three techniques, you also need one more thing - dedication. You didn't learn to write in a day, don't expect to learn to fly in a day. Many of the same fine motor movements learned in writing will be used in flying. These movements all took time and dedication to learn. It's truly the difference between writing your name with your elbow, and writing it with a pencil. That fine control will take time to develop - keep at it and don't give up.
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spider
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 11-09-02 06:51 AM - Post#11280
In response to Tree_Top_Chop
i think the biggest thing that i have learned by flying on a simulator is the amount of confedance it has given me as far as being relaxed when you fly the real thing outdoors, this gives alot of mental reassurance, knowing you can fly the damn thing! later spider!!!
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Rollover
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 12-15-02 07:04 AM - Post#12291
In response to volare
I recently got FMS and downloaded the hirobo shuttle challenge files for it. after about a week of flying on the keyboard the parts for my nexus finally got here. I flew (not crashed) today and the difference is like night and day! I just ordered the futaba to usb off ebay for 49usd and can't wait to fly virtual with the F-box. Someday i plan to get G2, but for now this is much more than I expected for free (plus $50)!
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FireFly
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12-15-02 10:30 PM - Post#12330
In response to jkelly
I have always wanted to get a heli but did not because of the mith of the difficulty in flying them and cost. I desided to get one after I learned how to fly the ThreeDee model in FMS Simulator: http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html
You dont have to spend $200 for it. Its free and it works. Proof: I learned how to fly my Nexus and I am going around the field no problems in 4 flying days. IT WORKS GREAT.
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xchurchx
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12-21-02 06:12 PM - Post#12936
In response to Staff
Don't neglect it!
Once you've mastered hovering and basic control, add some real-world conditions to your flying practice. Most sims come with various environment settings such as wind, ground effect etc. USE THEM. You'll wish you did when the wind picks up!
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eSmith
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03-10-03 10:22 PM - Post#17124
In response to xchurchx
While adding things like weather and obsticles does give you something to work at, depending on the speed of your computer you may be better off to go the other way and turn all graphics and features off. All of these settings use some portion of the availiable resources of your computer. By selectively turning these off, you may find your simulator running more smoothly and more realisticly. In real life, the sceanery never freezes solid and then redraws everything where it would be if the computer were fast enough to display it in real time, skipping all the screens in the middle it didn't have time to render, so why would it be ok that our simulator do this? Again, this only applies to lower end computers (anything under 800mhz) and I'm running Realflight so I can't comment on the other packages.
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trilleam
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05-04-03 08:07 PM - Post#19450
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Whenever I sit down with the sim I first go to www.weather.com, put in my zipcode and transfer the local weather conditions to my sim.
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NeedHeli
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05-18-03 04:37 AM - Post#19976
In response to trilleam
You should buy one, it may seem like a lot of money for a simulator, but when it comes down to it, its that much more that you can save when you don't crash because you learned how to hover correctly. It also offers a safe, non threating enviornment where you don't have to hesitate to try stuff, and be on edge.
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