zio
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 10-20-03 12:45 AM - Post#28439
hey what kinda gauges / meters do i need like pitch gauges tachometers and what brade do you recamend and for nut that have nylon in them should i put locktite on em to be safe? 
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Mike Mas
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 10-20-03 12:40 PM - Post#28483
In response to zio
The only gauge you really need is a pitch gauge. Almost any of them work fine. Sorry, Did not understand the nylon question 
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Anonymous
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10-20-03 12:43 PM - Post#28485
In response to Mike Mas
I think what he was asking was if locknuts (nylon inserts) need Locktite.
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Tree_Top_Chop
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Loc: California
Reg: 08-14-02
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10-20-03 04:20 PM - Post#28494
In response to zio
You don't need (or use) locktite on locknuts. Like Mike said - pitch guage is handy. Find someone experienced to help you and you won't need any of that other stuff. You'll probably buy it eventually, though.
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zio
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Posts: 1667
Loc: Wellington, Ohio- the pla...
Reg: 05-25-03
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10-20-03 10:44 PM - Post#28505
In response to Tree_Top_Chop
Ok. Thanks,I can not find anyone to help me.See,myclub keeps changeing locations and currenly is 1 hour away and it is going to be Winter. Im just not takeing any chances-even though before I left they did set up my pitchs. Ant suggestions for that on my raven 30? They are 0,1,2 my caliber is 0,5.5,9 . And when I go into forward flight,does my pitch need to be at a certain point e.g. -2,0,9 (for beginers in!) Because my first attempt kinda would have been a 'upgrade oppertunity' if I didnt have T. gear on i also need it so i got enough power to pull out if something happens
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Anonymous
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10-21-03 12:22 AM - Post#28511
In response to zio
If you're asking what kind of pitch curve you should run, I would say first that you probably shouldn't run much more than 9 degrees on the top end. Anything more, and you're coming close to overloading your engine.
If you're looking for specific numbers for a pitch curve, I would say that it depends on the type of setup you want to use. For example:
"Standard" setup: - 2 degrees at low stick, 5 degrees at mid-stick (or however much pitch it takes to hover), and 9 degrees at top end.
"Mas-Tech" setup: -9 on low end, 0 at half stick, +9 on top end. Throttle curve should be set for 0, 25, 50, 75, 100 in normal mode, and 100, 75, 50, 75, 100 in Idle-Up.
If you want my personal opinion, I run the Mas-Tech setup I just described in my Raptor 30, and I've been much happier with it than the standard setup I once had. It takes much of the guesswork out of setting up pitch and throttle curves, it largely negates the need for a governor, and should your skills progress to inverted flying, it gives your heli the same "feel" on its feet and on its back. I've tried both ways, and I honestly think everyone should try Mas-Tech at least once. It's simply a more logical, intuitive system any way you slice it!
(Okay, Mike... when do we start discussing those kickbacks?) 
I don't know if this fully answered your question, Ziomatrix. Please let me know if I can be of any additional help.
Any of you more experienced pilots out there wanna chime in?
P.S. Your posts are getting easier to read. Thanks! 
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