JAY
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 02-02-02 11:49 PM - Post#1193
I am going to be getting a new radio. I currently own a JR XP652 but want to move up to a better radio. I have read all bout the 8103 and the 9C. I am leaning towards the new 9C but would like to read the manual for both before i make a decision.Does anybody have a copy of either or both of these manuals that they could down load to me. I was at my LHS today a played around a little with the 9C but the manual was all sealed up and they wouldn't let me open it with out buying it first. I would appreciate it alot. Thanks
Jay
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baass
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 02-03-02 06:09 AM - Post#1194
In response to JAY
Go to Horizon's web site, they have JR's manuals in P.D.F format. Looking to buy an 8103 myself.100+ pages!
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JAY
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02-03-02 03:51 PM - Post#1195
In response to baass
Thanks baass,
I couldn't find it yesterday but found it today. I only wanted to print the heli part of the manual. Does anybody have the new 9C manual that they could down load to me or know of one already on the internet. I am comparing features of both radios. I goning to have all futaba servo's, gyro, ect.
so I thought it would be logical just to get a Futaba radio. How are the 9001 servos for a 60 size heli. Thats all that come with the 9C. I have seen that if you buy the 8U you can get 9202 with it but not with the new 9C. Jay
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z11355
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02-03-02 06:03 PM - Post#1196
In response to JAY
cyberheli has the 9C PDF.The 9001 servos are marginal for a 60 so consider that you'd probably need to spend the $200+ on a set of 9202's and sell the 9001 for whatever you could get. That is one of the big 'hidden' extra costs of the 9C.
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JAY
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02-03-02 09:59 PM - Post#1197
In response to z11355
z11355,
I looked up CyberHeli and could not find the pdf for the 9C. Could you let me know were it is. Thanks Jay
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baass
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02-04-02 04:07 AM - Post#1198
In response to JAY
A few things on the JR, The throttle trim is NOT digital, it has the standard racheting type of trim wheel. Much easier to shut down engine in my opinion. Maybe not a big deal but it beats the heck out of dealing with digital th. trims. I have been told from a pretty reputable source that the JR's tx. output is a bit more. Still maybe not a big issue but did you FEEL THE DIFFERENCE in the JR's gimbals?
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ddeluria
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02-04-02 04:45 AM - Post#1199
In response to baass
Both are excellent. You can actually toss a coin and end up with a winner either way.But, if you have already have invested in JR receivers, the JR gets a hair's edge over the Futaba. As for the ratchet trim on the throttle being easier, I prefer the throttle cut switch just because after a flight, it's quite easy to forget to return the ratchet back to the idle and have difficulty starting again on the next flight. I used the throttle trim to shut down the engine on my old FF7 and the newer FF8 & 9z using throttle cut is alot easier IMO.
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JAY
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02-04-02 11:42 AM - Post#1200
In response to ddeluria
The only problem I had was my fingers seemed to be a little big to get to all the switches without looking down at the radio.The only radio gear I have is what came with my XP652 and that is only an 6 channel FM with 517 servo's. Jay
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Dyehard
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02-04-02 01:48 PM - Post#1201
In response to JAY
"did you FEEL THE DIFFERENCE in the JR's gimbals". In a word, NO. I have a 9Z and an 8103, I fly a friends 10X and several others 8U's, and I can feel no real difference in JR gimbals over Futaba gimbals, within a class of radio. I can, however, feel the difference between the gimbals that come on the 10X and 9Z and those that come on the 8U and 8103. I just removed the 8103 from my Raptor and installed an Futaba airborne systen so I could use my 9Z with, and now I can FEEL THE DIFFERENCE.
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JAY
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02-06-02 12:19 AM - Post#1202
In response to Dyehard
The reason I was leaning towards the futaba was becouse I am going to be using 9202 servo's and a GY401/9253 gyro so it only seamed right to buy a futaba.I still see 8U's for sale, are they worth it or should I buy a 9C and eventually get the 9202 servo's. I am looking to buy a radio that I won't have to up grade next year. I am looking to the folks in this forum that have either of these radio or have them all that could give me some info. Thanks alot Jay
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baass
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02-06-02 12:56 AM - Post#1203
In response to JAY
As DIEHARD is comparing a top of the line futaba to something less than in the jr, I dont believe that he is giveing justice were justice is do. The 9z is almost twice as much. The 8103 can be purchased for $599 w/ 531's and the old 8u comes w/ 3001's. If cost has ABSOLUTELY no factor then the choice is yours.
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Dyehard
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02-06-02 03:54 PM - Post#1204
In response to baass
baass, I'm sorry, I guess I didn't make myself plain enough. I said within a price class I can't feel any real difference between JR and Futaba gimbals, the only difference I can feel is between the gimbals on the top of the line radios as opposed to mid priced radios. I can feel no real difference between the sticks on an 8103 and I have one, and the sticks on an 8U Futaba, that can't be attributied to stick tension. The same for the upper class radio, the sticks on my 9Z feel just as good as the sticks on my friends 10SXII and his 10X, and the sticks on all three of those have a much better feel than the sticks on my 8103 or any 8U I have flown. The sticks on my friends 10SXII have less spring tension than the sticks on his 10X even with the spring tension on the 10X turned all the way down, that makes them softer, but in no way smoother. The sticks on the mid priced radios are very good now, but there is still a noticeable difference between them and the ones on the top of the line radios, but within a given price range, I can't detect any great difference between JR and Futaba sticks.
You also mentioned digital throttle trim in your origional post. I guarantee I can move my finger and kill an engine quicker than you can move your whole hand to kill an engine with mechanical throttle trim, and when I've killed an engine that way, I don't have to remember to reset the trim back to idle. Couldn't count the times I've seen someone fussing because an engine wouldn't start, only to find the trim all the way down from the last time they killed the engine. Plus, I fly several helis and planes from one transmitter, if I have to retrim the throttle on one, it doesn't affect the others. Digital throttle trim has all the same advantages as having digital trims on the other controls, with no disadvantages. JR must be starting to think so too, their newest radio has digital throttle trim and a kill switch. Funnny though, from their ads, you would think they invented it.[This message has been edited by Dyehard (edited 02-06-2002).]
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