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Username Post: Flybarless        (Topic#76853)
RC Man1 
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Loc: Central Illinois
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07-18-10 12:44 PM - Post#87970    

It’s been a while since I checked in and I see this forum has almost gone dead compared to others. Right now I see that there is 1 user (me) and 71 guests on line. We definitely need to get more users signed up so we can have some more diversified discussions.

I fly mainly medium and large (500, 600, and 700) size flybarless electric’s these days. They don’t seam to be discussed that much on this forum.

Mike are you going to review the new Flybarless T-Rex 550E helicopter?





RC


Edited by RC Man1 on 07-18-10 12:49 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Jim Mahoney 
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Jim Mahoney
Loc: California
Reg: 06-17-03

Re: Flybarless
07-25-10 05:24 PM - Post#87971    
    In response to RC Man1

Hello RC Man1,

Can you tell us about your experiences with electronic Flybarless control electronics?

These electronic flybar replacement systems have become the new In Thing these days but are they better?

Yes there is less mechanics but:

Is the performance equal? I am sure this will depend on how they are setup.

Which brings up the next question; How easy are they to set up?

Have there been any dependability issues yet?

What Brands have you used?

What parameters do you have control over? e.g., Flybar/pilot control ratio, Phasing, Flybar/pilot control ratio expo gain, etc.?

Model helicopters have been going the way of full scale aircraft - as much or more money is invested in the electronics as in the helicopter mechanics.

And now a question for Competition --- should these systems be allowed in Competition? I have heard that some of these systems basicly give you a Heading Hold Characteristic on all control axis, which seems to be counter to determining who has the best flying skills. We already have an exception for allowing Heading Hold for Tail Rotor Control and I agree with this - Tail Rotor is really tough without any gyro, and tough enough with only rate responding gyros - Heading Hold Gyros have opened up a whole new flight dimension that may not have been possible without Heading Hold.

These systems most defiantly are useful in Ariel Camera and Video work But should they be allowed in Competition where we are judging Pilot Skill? For example if a High Jumper had a pair of shoes which had so much spring in them that they could give an extra 2 feet to the height jumped, 9 feet instead of 7 feet --- what would it mean? The height jumped would be greater but what does it say for the person wearing them? It would be good for the shoe manufacture for sure just as it will be good for the flybarless electronics manufacturers.


What do folks out in Heli-Land Think?

Happy Flying,
Cherokee Jim Mahoney



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Crash 
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Crash
Loc: East Lansing, MI.
Reg: 10-14-03

Re: Flybarless
07-27-10 03:46 PM - Post#87973    
    In response to Jim Mahoney

Good to hear from you RC man

I to would like to learn more about your machines.
Itching to crash.


 
reddragon 
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reddragon
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 01-22-03

Re: Flybarless
02-12-11 02:59 PM - Post#87998    
    In response to Crash

  • Quote:
Can you tell us about your experiences with electronic Flybarless control electronics?





Agreed. Let us hear some more about your experiences.
-Wayne
Fly it like you stole it!


 
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