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Username Post: Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa        (Topic#76557)
copterdoctor 
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06-28-08 09:53 PM - Post#86947    

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hi guys!
over the last months, i have been working on my latest project to hopefully take to the nats this year. its a u.s army OH58D kiowa warrior. since this particular variant of the 58 isnt available in the more affordable 50 size, i had to get an off the shelf jetranger fuselage and do the "D" mods myself.
the biggest difference between prvious models of the OH 58 and the "D" model is the doghouse where the engine and transmission is. the "D: model has a considerably larger doghouse and is the major part of the modification.
the "D" model conversion was done using a combo of balsawood and construction paper. i am particularly fond of using the latter because it is cheap, light, easy to work with as far as cutting, shaping, bending, sanding and finishing.
once this was all done, it was business as usual building a scale heli.
the OH58D is easily spotted by the mast mounted sight above the rotor system. surprisingly, replicating this task on the model was not as tough a job as one might have thought. if you own a machine shoip or know someone who does, there is nothing you cannot do.
living here at FT Rucker Alabama, home of army aviation has proven to be very beneficiary to any army helicopter one ploans to model as they are here in great numbers if currently in use, and in the museum here if once used by the army.
here are some photos of the start of the process. one of the pics show where i use regular cardboard to see how the templates will be cut. you sure learn about cutting curves a certain way to get the right fit.

 
copterdoctor 
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Re: Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa
06-28-08 10:07 PM - Post#86948    
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with the doghouse frame pretty much completed, the sides and front fairings are added.

 
copterdoctor 
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Re: Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa
06-28-08 10:37 PM - Post#86949    
    In response to copterdoctor

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once the top fairing is finished, its on to the other external features such as the disco ball mount. regular cardboard from cereal boxes etc come in handy for this sort of thing, just cut, shape glue and spray with primer.
the cockpit is built using the same combo of balsa, construction paper and cardboard. modelling made cheap and easy.

 
copterdoctor 
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Re: Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa
06-28-08 10:42 PM - Post#86950    
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the cockpit dash, center console and floorboard are added next. i tend to build in a certain order but several different steps may be worked on at random. sometimes while you wait on cockpit stuff to dry or get constructed, outside details may get worked on. in many cases, subassemblies have to be finished before the complete unit can be finished and installed into place. scale building can be painstaking and time consuming but it sure is fun.
the pics show the begining stages of the mast mounted sight, already mounted in place.

 
copterdoctor 
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06-28-08 11:00 PM - Post#86951    
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the infamous "ball on top" its what makes the kiowa stand out from other machines in the army's inventory. that ball or "mast mounted sight" houses a video and infra red cameras, range finder,and laser designator. it allows the helicopter to mask behind a tree or hill without being seen by the enemy while still being able to take a peek at the target. at several miles away, the mms' protrusion is virtually impossible to see. it will look up and down as well as left and right including completely behind the heli.
on my model, it will only pan left and right as space and wight restricts me from doing any more than that.
a trip to walmart for the foam ball was all it took. two coats of finishing resin and a little carving was all that was needed. the base structure of the face was cut from lite ply and then construction paper forms the facial features.
now its ready for filling and sanding.

 
copterdoctor 
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06-28-08 11:14 PM - Post#86952    
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the vertical fin. you know, i have done more than several fuselages over the years and 99% of them came with a vertical stabilizer that just wasnt exactly right. either it was too small though for good reason, or it wasnt shaped quite right. the smaller size kept it from being too much of a barndoor that cuts the efficiency of the tailrotor. the 58D's fin is more than just different from the one that is supplied with the fuselage, it has details that requred construction of a new one all together. i have always found it easier to have the wire tailskid installed inside with a bend to help anchor it in the fin. basically i sandwich thin balsawood between two paper thin sheets of birchwood. this results in a strong but light fin when all glued together. the birch sides are so smooth, they sand and finish to a very smooth surface that when primed, you cannot even see the wood grain.

 
copterdoctor 
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06-28-08 11:37 PM - Post#86953    
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the tailcone, also constructed from construction paper is carefully shaped and added. the 58 models all have the tail gearbox exposed and is not fully enclosed like you seeon the civilian jetrangers. therefore, i had to cut off the "bulb like" section of the tailboom and do the cone like that of the 58.
i like to fly the fuselage on the mechs before much of the detailing is ever completed so i will be assured there arent any issues with the way the mechs are mounted and that all the mods i did to the mechs will workon the fuse.

 
mars 
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06-30-08 03:08 AM - Post#86956    
    In response to copterdoctor

very very nice machine try to post a video of it wen it is finish.

Mars
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07-02-08 01:49 PM - Post#86960    
    In response to mars

I am so glad you posted this. I have been wanting to build an OH-58D for a long time but could never find any really good kits. Is there anyway you could post the templates you made or did you just eyeball it? You have an amazing gift! That looks great!
-Chris Machen-
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copterdoctor 
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07-03-08 06:40 PM - Post#86966    
    In response to Super STL

Chris,
i did eyeball it but as it is the 4th one i have built, i get better everytime. you wouldnt happen to be Ricky's son would ya?

 
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Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa
07-09-08 02:49 AM - Post#86978    
    In response to copterdoctor

Sorry for the late reply. Been out of the office. No, I'm his nephew. He got me into helis about five years ago. Haven't seen him much since I moved to Jacksonville though. That's why I have to ask so many questions on here. He is usually working on the real deal helis at Lifesaver and I can't reach him. Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it a try. Is there any way to use a long ranger fuse and make it look good besides cutting it(not even sure that would work).
-Chris Machen-
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"If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is definitely not your thing."


 
copterdoctor 
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07-14-08 11:54 AM - Post#86991    
    In response to Super STL

the longranger probably wouldnt work for the 58d as its based on the Jetranger airframe, however the new ARH is based on the longranger/bell 407 and would be more suitable for that. you also wouldnt have to worry about a mast mounted sight since the arh doesnt have one.

 
Super STL 
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07-19-08 03:32 AM - Post#86996    
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Cool. Thanks. I'll look into the ARH.
-Chris Machen-
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Mike Mas 
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07-20-08 01:24 PM - Post#87000    
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Hey Copterdoctor nice thread Thanks!!
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copterdoctor 
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07-30-08 09:59 PM - Post#87017    
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no problem Mike, plenty more to come, plenty more

 
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08-06-08 11:53 AM - Post#87036    
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Keep them coming!!!
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reddragon 
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08-23-08 04:04 PM - Post#87080    
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Always a pleasure to see your work Doc!

What happened to your Blackhawk a few weeks ago or did I hear wrong?
-Wayne
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Cyclic 
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10-01-08 11:25 PM - Post#87176    
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RD

A number of other forums had pictures and video of Copter Doc's heli with the Century Blackhawk fuselage at the 2008 US nats. Here is one such thread:

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t446471p1/ ?top=...

Here is Emile taking second in scale at IRCHA 2008 with a Century H500 fuselage etc.

http://www.runryder.com/?v=/helicopter/rrTV-P hoto/...

Here is a thread of Emile flying someone's electric conversion of a Century Huey

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t453689p1/

 
reddragon 
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01-07-09 12:15 AM - Post#87409    
    In response to Cyclic

Cyclic thanks for the links. There were some images in a magazine of a downed Blackhawk and I don't remember the captions on them. I thought it was Emile's Blackhawk and I may have been mistaken.
-Wayne
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Century/Funkey 50 size jetranger converted to OH58D kiowa
01-07-09 04:46 AM - Post#87410    
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Ah I see, it looks like it was the Blackhawk crash from the National Championships in "2007" that a heli magazine published in June/July 2008 was reporting on. Nice and Late to the party as it were.
-Wayne
Fly it like you stole it!


 
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